New Balance Minimus Trail Review

Flying New Balance logoThe New Balance Minimus Trail is here… at least at iRunFar headquarters. Unlike most iRunFar reviews, we’re so excited to share this shoe with you that we reviewed this shoe as soon as we could

Please feel free to ask away about the shoe and we’ll either share our personal experiences with the shoe or attempt to get you an answer. First, we highly recommend reading the comments, where we’ve answered many questions about the Minimus Trail.

Below, following an overview of the Minimus Trail, are my initial impressions, thoughts from my first run, and a look at the shoe’s components before some final words of caution. Without further delay, we present the New Balance Minimus Trail.

New Balance Minimus Trail
Minimus Overview
New Balance Minimus logoIn case you’re unfamiliar with New Balance’s forthcoming Minimus line, it’s a series of low-profile, minimalist shoes inspired by and designed with significant input from Anton Krupicka. While the Minimus line will include a Trail, Road, and Lifestyle shoe for both men and women, the Trail model is the one with the closest ties to Anton. New Balance and Anton have been keen to share the inspiration behind and development of the Minimus line. We previously shared some of this with you.

First Impressions
First off, the NB Minimus Trail is visually stunning. I sit here entranced by the flashy orange, black, and silver. When I can focus on the details, I’m absorbed in the materials used in the shoe’s upper, many of which are striking in their uniqueness in a trail shoe. Flip the Minimus Trail over and it’s an outsole unlike any that I’ve seen before with nooks and crannies where I would expect lugs. I touch the shoe. I indulge in its plush interior. I want to put on this shoe rather than have it sit on my desk.

The scale doesn’t lie and the Minimus Trail in a US men’s 9 weighs in at 7.45 ounces (212 grams). Yes, there are lighter shoes out there. Even my slightly worn New Balance MT101s (iRF MT101 review) come in a gram or two lighter. Still, these shoes will not weigh down your feet. Your feet, however, will be down close to the ground. The Minimus Trail has a heel height of 9 mm with a toe height of 5 mm for a heel/toe drop of 4 mm.

Slipping my feet into the shoe, I quickly notice the natural constriction point – the ball of the foot. That’s where the outsole rises up both medially and laterally. Those protrusions onto the upper are connected by what appears to be a brushed rubber strap. The feeling of having your foot connected with your shoe at such a low point, just at the transition between metatarsals and toes, is quite different, though not uncomfortable.

New Balance Minimus Trail
The Minimus line’s “natural last” is also quickly apparent, particularly in the toe box. My toes have tons of space to wiggle around and ample room between toe’s end and shoe’s end. In testing the toe box, the shoe’s flexibility shows off a bit, too. In raising my toes, the front of the shoe, including the outsole, easily rise. What’s more, I can see any movement I make with my toes. Ahead of the brushed rubber strap, there is no structure to speak of in the Minimus Trail’s upper.

Before I proceed, we suppose you’ll want some details about when you can get a pair of New Balance Minimus Trails for yourself. Well, they’ll be available for $100 in March 2011.

First Run Impressions
To start, I’m not a full-on minimalist trail runner and definitely not a barefoot runner. There’s nothing wrong with either, I just haven’t gone in those directions. Since college, the lowest heel/toe drop that I’ve run in with any consistency is a 10mm drop as found in the MT101 and numerous other trail shoes. Therefore, it’s not surprising that I immediately felt tightness in my left calf, which has given me various issues over the past year and half. There was no pain, so I continued on.

What struck me most during this first run was how much the Minimus felt like a shoe. I mean that in a good way. My foot was protected from trail encounters with rocks, brush, downed tree limbs, and snow. I didn’t have to worry about where I placed every footfall. I could just run, which, I guess, is what I enjoy most.

New Balance Minimus Trail

The NB Minimus Trail out for their first run.

Despite being a “shoe,” the Minimus Trail always left my body to do its own bidding. When climbing, my feet had to work. When I’d step on an obstacle, my foot would would drape over it. I was oft reminded that I have long neglected many lower leg muscles, which have atrophied even more over the past year while dealing with plantar fasciitis. These reminders weren’t a bad thing. They were a wake up call. Fortunately, I see the Minimus Trail (and MT101) as perfect tools to regain the trail strength I need.

As for performance, the shoe was quite comfortable. Although the run was short, I did not experience any hotspots or any hint of irritation during my sockless run. What’s more is that despite running on lightly snow-covered trails at 30F with a howling wind, my feet were never cold. (The one tip I would give likely snow runners is to err toward a larger size so you can wear socks that cover the gap between your shoes and tights or pants.)

The Minimus Trail provided plenty of traction on loosely frozen dirt trails. It repeated the feat on snow without ever accumulating any snow in the outsole, as on the return leg of an out-and-back all my footprints were perfect imprints. Even the upper stayed largely snow free. Post run, the Minimus Trails had taken on a scant half ounce (13 grams) of water. I love that there’s precious little material to soak up water.

Components
Upper
The focus on minimalism is apparent in the NB Minimus Trail’s upper. There are structural elements, but not many. The only possible unnecessary components would be some slight branding on the tongue and outside of the shoe; however, even those elements have purpose as we’ll see.

New Balance Minimus Trail
Two meshes comprise the majority of the upper.

The mesh at the front of the toe box, the sides, and the rear of the shoe is an extremely open mesh. This mesh is most often backed by a thin, much more finely woven fabric that both keeps out dust and debris as well as to serve as much of the shoe’s liner. This open mesh with backing, while flexible, is surprisingly inelastic and serves as structural fabric.

New Balance Minimus Trail upper
A moderately open mesh with a highly elastic backing material is found through much of the toe box and all of the tongue. This mesh allows for excellent mobility for your toes and the front of your ankle. The tongue is thin, but with enough cushioning to be comfortable. It’s also fully gusseted. There’s a small, rubberized New Balance Minimus logo at the top of the tongue. Given that the gusseted tongue can’t slip down much, that tiny piece may be unnecessary, but it is useful in making slight adjustments to the tongue and could be easily cut off if you care about milligrams. Together, the upper’s mesh make it feel light, airy, and good option on a hot day… though today’s 30F temperatures make that idle speculation.

Brushed rubber makes up many of the major structural components of the Minimus Trail. In the heel, a triangle of outsole rises up to an inch onto the upper. That triangle is flanked on each side by 1/2″ strips of the bushed rubber that merge into a 1 1/2″ vertical band. Two 3/4″-wide rubber strips extend diagonally from the top of the counter the rear of the midfoot. Together, these elements for a slight heel counter.

As noted in my initial impressions, there’s a rubber strip between the toes and metarasals. This strip helps connect your foot to the shoe and, I hypothesize, keeps your foot from slipping to the front of the shoe.

In the midfoot, a pair of 1 cm strips on both the inside and outside of the shoe provide support. A light plastic “N” overlay on the outside of the shoe provides a bit more structure. (This “N” may seem purely cosmetic, but I feel it is at worst insignicant and, much more likely, useful support that doesn’t greatly interfere with your foot’s mechanics.) Wrapping up the midfoot’s structure are rubber strips along both sets of eyelets running from the forefoot’s rubber strip to the ankle collar. With little substance in the midfoot, these eyelet bands help to bond the shoes to your feet.

I’ve got two final notes regarding the upper. First, the shoes laces are standard shoelaces rather than the MT100/101s sausage links. The laces are an appropriate length that do not require trimming, tucking, or triple knotting. Second, the ankle collar is gloriously low. I often have problems with ankle collars being too high. That’s not the case here. As a bonus, there’s a thin ribbon of silky fabric ringing the top of the ankle collar.

Upper’s Interior
Great design work is apparent throughout the Minimus Trail. However, once you look inside the shoe, you see the attention to craftsmanship. This craftsmanship is notable enough for me to mention the upper’s interior, a shoe aspect I rarely touch on here at iRunFar.

I suppose that given the sockless comfort of the MT101, I shouldn’t be all that surprised that shoe fits like a glove not just in fit, but also in on-body comfort. The vast majority of the upper’s interior is made up of silky smooth synthetic fabrics with unobtrusive stitching. In the heel, there’s what appears to be synthetic suede. This, too, is plush. The synthetic suede (if that’s what it is) also adds durability for where your heel slides in and provides a tad bit of additional structure in the heel. The footbed feels like a standard felt footbed. The only surprise is that it’s not removable.

Midsole
We can skip this one… there is no appreciable midsole. There’s the slightest of cushion underfoot, but no more than your standard insole.

Outsole
New Balance worked with Vibram to develop the Minimus Trail’s outsole. It’s a thing of beauty. It’s unique. In fact, it’s unique enough that it’s the design aspect of the Miminus line that New Balance kept most under wraps. We’ll skip trying to describe the lug pattern, as in this case an image is much more useful.
New Balance Minimus Trail outsole

Aside from the lugs, the outsole is newsworthy in its use as a structural component in three places. As previously noted, the outsole is curved up near the ball of the foot and the heel to provide some structure. The third structure use of the outsole is as the entirety of the arch support. That’s right. The footbed of the Miminus Trail is completely flat. Instead, the outsole curves up in the instep to provide a modicum of arch support.

Words of Caution
I generally give a word of caution when reviewing minimally structured or low heel/toe drop shoes. This time I’m lucky as New Balance has been quite responsible in attaching the following to the Minimus:

Caution: This product increases the strain on the foot, calf, and Achilles tendon. Overuse of this product or use of activities outside of running and walking may increase the risk of sustaining injury.

This product should be introduced slowly into a running exercise routine. New Balance recommends limiting initial use to 10% of overall running workouts and very gradually increasing training time and distance.

If I remember correctly, distribution of the Minimus line will be tightly controlled when it is released in March 2011. I believe the only online outlet will be shopnewbalance.com and that there will be a significant educational aspect to the purchasing experience. I’m excited to see New Balance taking such care in releasing this product.

Call for Questions and Comments
Feel free to leave any comments you might have about the Minimus. If you’ve seen these in person or run in them, please share your take.

There are 113 comments

  1. Neil Bryant

    Great looking trail shoe which looks almost as minimalist as inov-8's F-lite 230's and 195's. I've recently bought the X-Talon 190's and used them in a very muddy 34 miler. Awsome shoes! Would love to try the minimus' now.

    Will they be sold in the UK though is the real question Bryon?

    I'm developing a shoe fetish!

  2. Nick

    In your opinion, do you think this shoe could be a racer (50K?, 100K? 100 mile?) or is it just purely a trainer? I think I saw a post somewhere where even Anton said he'd probably still race in his 101s and train in these?

    1. Bryon Powell

      Nick, I think a folks deep into the barefooting thing will be racing in these up to and including 100 miles. For the rest of us, I suspect very few will choose to race even 50k in these rather than in the MT101 or a comparable shoe that provides additional support with no added weight.

  3. Trail Clown

    So would these line up on the same level as the Terra Plana minimalist running shoes (which also come with lots of warnings, etc.), basically as "closed toe" competitors to the Vibram Five Finger line? If so, I can't wait to wear them immediately in an ultra, and cause some serious foot damage. Nah, just kidding, I will build up, I will build up, I promise (I hope)…

    1. DaveMo

      I love the enthusiasm – the love for running and for running shoes – that comes through in this review, Bryon! I can totally relate. But I almost wish I hadn't read it: 4 months is a long time to wait!

      Thanks as always for this great blog.

    2. Bryon Powell

      TC, I've never worn the Terra Plana, though I have investigated them in person. I'd say there's a bit more substance to the Minimus Trail, but not so much to remove it from the same category as the Terra Plana and VFF.

      Ps. If you where the Minimus Trail for the BRR 50, I'll come east and kick your butt. ;-)

      1. Trail Clown

        I don't know, now that you're in the 9.5 hour range for 50 milers, I should be able to hang. If, once you get the WS training ramped up, you're back in the sub-7hour range, save me a beer and a neuroma kit at the finish line :)

  4. Tyro

    To reiterate what others were asking, why was Anton saying he wouldn't race with it? In your review, it sounded like it provided trail protection but was there something else going on like painfully thin soles or something? Given what Anton does to his shoes I'd be surprised if it was just the heel drop.

    Thanks for the fun review. I'm not normally into running toys but these look tempting.

    1. Bryon Powell

      I wait to speculate regarding Anton's thinking, so I won't. Instead, I'll note that aside from the lower drop of the Minimus Trail, the MT101 does have slightly more protection underfoot and in the upper, a bit more cushioning, and more support. These are all things I wouldn't mind on race day. In addition, a heel-shaved pair of MT101s will weigh less than an unmodified pair of Minimus Trail.

  5. Tobias

    Being such a fan of the low-profile shoes already available from Inov-8, I'm anxious to try the Minimus out for comparison. It'll be quite a bit different, I think, particularly because of the wide toe box. But, perhaps not.

    Thanks for the awesome review. I can't believe they're waiting four more months to release this shoe to the public! Then again, I suppose they need that time to build more public enthusiasm in order to pay $100 for a minimally constructed shoe.

    1. Bryon Powell

      There's nothing different about the timing of this shoe release. As is traditional, New Balance announced the Minimus line around the time of the summer Outdoor Retailer show last August. This is the show where shoe companies usually announce their Spring/Summer models, which are to be released between January and March of the coming year. If anything, New Balance tried to hold off on building public enthusiasm too early.

    1. Bryon Powell

      Yes, eventually. Here's what New Balance had to say on the subject of wide Minimus shoes back in August:

      We are working on delivering these shoes in widths for some time in the fall (2011). We built these shoes on a new last (wider in the toe box than our performance last to allow for the additional splay, and obviously less drop), and any new lasts, or additions to new lasts (such as widths) need to be proved out in fit testing, so we haven't nailed down timing yet, but once approved in fit testing, it will go to production.

  6. Holly

    hey, these look great! Thanks for the thorough review.

    Unless I missed it (haven't had any caffeine yet this morning…), you didn't say anything about how good the traction is, and I'm curious because the lugs don't really *look* all that grippy. How's the traction on wet/slippery surfaces?

    1. Holly

      Not many shoes can handle sheer ice! One thing I love about my Raptors (even though they're tanks compared to the Minimus!) is that they will grip just about anything. I run a lot of wet rocks and wood and mud, so traction is good! But I still definitely want to try them out.

      1. Bryon Powell

        My thoughts exactly re the ice, Holly. The Raptors and some shoes with metal dibs in the lugs are about the only trail shoes that can handle ice. It's not something that I'd expect most trail shoes to tackle.

  7. Nick

    To clarify my earlier comment, I tracked down the post where Tony says he'd train in the Minimus and race in the 100:

    "TK: “For me, it's typically a racing shoe. I end up, for the most part, training and racing in the same shoe. That's changed somewhat with NB Minimus – and this is really tied to my philosophy on the barefoot running movement – because for me it's not so much about an all-or-nothing approach. If I train on a daily basis in a shoe like NB Minimus, which is super-flexible and really low to the ground, then that allows me to race in a shoe that's really light as well. For my purposes, on the terrain I cover, NB Minimus might not be quite protective enough. Training in them on a daily basis allows me to race in a shoe that's much lighter than I might otherwise.

    The line itself is sort of split: The 100 is kind of a racing shoe that I'll use for long runs, and the NB Minimus is something I'll use more as a training tool. Over the last few months, I've begun to gear my feedback to the two shoes with that in mind. ”"

    http://www.newbalance.com/performance/tony-krupic

    1. Ben Nephew

      I would guess that Tony wants more cushioning for long downhills. You can run downhill trails faster for longer period of time with a bit of midsole. On technical, steep downhills you need stone and root protection, and some cushioning to allow you to push the pace without destroying your quads. Yes, you can run downhill very fast in bare feet or minimalist shoes, but you can do that longer and with less muscular damage with a moderate amount of cushioning. How much midsole you need is specific to the individual.

  8. Tim Hayes

    Wow these look really cool!

    Bryon, maybe I missed it in your review but just wanted to ask… how is the frontal toe protection in these? Guaranteed loss of a toenail if you stub your toe on a root or a rock?

    1. Bryon Powell

      There's a lip that should provide some protection for your big toes. As for the other toes, you'll have to rely on there being a decent gap between the from the shoe and the tips of your toes to provide protection.

  9. matt lindsey

    I recently spoke with a shoe rep at our local New Balance store, which is a concept store. They are hoping to have me in a set of these in February. I am excited to try them out. I currently run in La Sportiva Crosslites, and when I put on "regular" running shoes, I have all kinds of issues. I am hoping that the Minimus line is consistent with the Crosslites. The Crosslites are a shoe that Sportiva may end up cutting out of its line, even though I hope that doesnt happen. I will give my reviews also when I get my Minimus Trail from NB. Thanks for the great review.

    1. Bryon Powell

      I'd be shocked if Sportiva cut the Crosslites… except to fully embrace the forthcoming Crosslite 2.0. However, as a testament to La Sportiva's commitment to the Crosslite, they'll be offering both the Crosslite and Crosslite 2.0 next season as well as the Crossover GTX (think Crosslite with GORE-TEX and an integrated gaiter).

      1. matt lindsey

        Yes Bryon, I heard that they are bringing out the Crosslite 2.0. I think one of my sales guys at one of our local stores got really confused. As for the Crossover GTX, I picked up a pair last night. Wow are they sweeet!!! Great looking shoe and can't wait to run in them this week. Now I am praying for cold and snowy weather in Central PA. Keep up the great reviews!!!

  10. Nils

    I hated my pair of Asics Hyperspeed for their ability to 'seek and suck' rainwater into the inside of the shoe -even hours after the rain. I cannot tell from the images : Is the sole 'porous', or 'waterproof' ?

    I'd be interesting to know what a Vibram Bikila user thinks of the Minimus…

    Cool shoes, cool review. Thanks

    1. Bryon Powell

      The outsole is not porous. That said, the mesh extends all the way down to the outsole, so I can't see drainage being a problem.

      I'd comment on the Minimus Trail vs. Bikila except that I've not run in the Bikila. I, too, look forward to hearing any comparisons.

  11. terence

    Bryon, really great review. Comprehensive and lots of good pics to go with explanations.

    – Just wanted to get your thoughts an how do you find these size compared to the 101's? B/c I have wider feet, I found sizing up a full size in the 101s gave me the most comfortable/best fit. Would you get your minimus in the same size as the 101s?

    – Do you know if they will be released in Asia? (Hong Kong specifically)

    Keep up the great work

    1. Bryon Powell

      Terence,
      My MT101s and Minimus Trail are both US men's 9s and both feel like the right size. If you were cutting it really close in width for the 1 size up MT101 at the ball of the foot, you might go another half size up in the Minimus Trails due to the constriction point found there. However, I think in general the sizing for the two will be the same.

      I can't say I know anything about an Asian release. I'll see what I can dig up, but it will likely be a few days.

  12. Tony Mollica

    I may be wrong; but I seem to remember Anton saying that he did not feel the need to shave the heel on the 101's like he did on the 100's. That might have been in a video interview you did with him; perhaps before Western States?

  13. Richard

    Great review, thanks. But as we've been hearing about these for ages, the release date seems ridiculously far off. I would like a pair for winter, i.e. round about now. As I'm in Japan, I'm not going to be holding my breath – the 101 isn't even out here yet.

  14. Eric

    Education, huh. Sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. No matter how unusual they may be, they're still shoes, not freaking sticks of dynamite.

  15. Rob Youngren

    Any chance of a review of the "road" version of the Minimus? While I prefer running trails, I do run a lot of road miles to keep up my speed. As I'm already very happy with the X-Talon for all my off-road running, I'm always interested different road shoe possibilities.

  16. Brad Koenig

    Great review, Bryon. Thanks! I'm hoping to pick these up when they come out. Hopefully they will offer them in a 12.5 (I was dissapointed that the MT101 does not come in a 12.5)

  17. Brian Baker

    Hey Bryon,

    I'm curious, I have read references in a number of your reviewsarticles to "sockless running" and was wondering what the advantagebenefit of going sockless is. I've always worn socks with all of my running shoes, including racing flats and x-country spikes. Could you talk about some of the reasons for going sockless?

    Thanks!

    Brian

    1. Bryon Powell

      Brian,
      Expect for very long runs or cold conditions, I often lean toward thin socks. Since I don't like much sock anyway, if a shoe lets me run without them, why not? It's lighter and collects less water… which reinforces the lighter bit. Plus, you just feel closer to the trail. I doubt I'd ever race more than a 50k without socks… just too risky. On the other hand, once I've put in a few sockless test runs in a pair of shoes, I know I can manage a day-to-day training run in them.

  18. Kim Neill

    Nice review Bryon. My tootsies would be cold wearing those in the snow. But I can't wait to try them.

    Do you know if this Minimus shoe will have a maximus price?

  19. Tobias

    Ah, now that's something I didn't know. Thanks for the clarification, Bryon. I humbly retract my sarcasm regarding the price. Perhaps my own enthusiasm is making me anxious.

  20. Tim Barnes

    Very nice review, Bryon. Thanks for the pics, too! How many more days 'til March 1? With what you were saying about how the Minimus feels like a shoe, and not worrying about where your feet were falling, I imagine NB has a couple millimeters of EVA in the forefoot (or all the way through the foot). Yeah?

  21. Sand Sock Girl

    The construction of New Balance Minimus Trail is incredible! One of the best running shoe reviews so far. I’ll be taking note of its release date. Can’t wait to grab one pair of those soon!

  22. Malcolm

    Bryon, the building is on fire and you can either rescue the Minimus or the MT101. Which one do you save and why? I ask this as I am a man who has been using NB shoes for many years and rate your opinion quite highly. I have read all the Q&A's regarding both shoes and think that either way I am making a sound investment. Over to you my friend. Cheers mate.

  23. David

    I can save you the time — All the stability of running on jello, while completely losing any ground feel. So stiff that your toes will never need to worry about pushing the ground again, and with a toe-roll so severe that it feels like the earth is falling away from you at toe-off. The fashion sense of moon boots combined with the function of… well, no function.

    Do I win anything?

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  25. road runner sports c

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  26. John

    Of course I won't be able to buy them because they'll just be available in a D width. NB presumes that only people with narrow feet run on trails.

    1. Tony Mollica

      I'm in the same boat Justin! I don't think that NB presumes actually that only people with narrow feet run trails because I've bought 4 or 5 different NB trail shoes to run on trails in EE widths. However for some reason they've decided to not make wide sizes on this shoe; and so those of us with wider feet are shut out. I would like to hear a spokesperson from NB tell us why.

      Ironically I switched to wear NB shoes exclusively a number of years ago precisely because their shoes did come in wide sizes.

  27. George O

    Got my hands on a pair of the minimus today thanks to my buddy at Road Runners. First impressions of the minimus was jaw dropping! I slipped the shoe on(without socks) and immediately felt how comfortable and spacious my foot felt. The Toe box is much roomier than the MT101 right off the bat! I can spread my toes apart inside the shoe and still feel like I have plenty of room left. For those of us with wide feet, the minimus finally offers us with a minimalist alternative. With the MT101's I had to break in the shoe for at least 20 miles before they felt flexible. The Minimus is 100% flexible right out of the box. This could be due to the fact that there is no rock plate to stiffen the shoe. I have worn the shoes now for about 9.5 hours and so far no issues (granted I am at work, indoors and sitting most of the time. My feet are nice and dry which is mainly in part to the fact that the shoe has plenty of upper and side mesh to assist with breathing. I will be taking the minimus out for a trail run tomorrow and I will update my review of this awesome shoe! Will it replace my MT101's? most likely not, I still love the MT101's and will continue using them for most of my ultras but the minimus will be a huge and vital tool for strengthening my body.

  28. George O

    Bryon, Have you experienced any blisters with the minimus? I have worn them with and without socks with the same results. My left foot gets blisters in various spots (the same spots all the time). The furthest I have gone with these has been 8 miles and up and down some pretty crazy trails and I am just not ready to do any ultra's with these yet. I love the MT101's and will continue to use them as my goto trail shoe for all of my ultra's. I will still use the minimus as a training shoe for strength training and speed work but caution shold be taken for anyone using these for the 1st time on a long run. At first they feel great but after a while, you start to notice that years of running in cushioned and stability shoes have really weakened your feet and legs. Take it slow and build up your miles slowly.

    Bryon, thanks again for a great article!

    George

    1. Bryon Powell

      George, I've not run longer than 4 miles in the Minimus Trail and most of my runs have been on the road. No blisters or any sign of them or an issues caused by the shoes themselves. Sore calves and foot fascias…. well, that's my doing. ;-)

      I think very few runners will be wearing the Minumus for ultras. That's not what it's designed for.

      1. George O

        Thanks Bryon for your input. In my opinion if the MT101 had the upper of the minimus, that would be the excellent shoe for me.

        thanks again,

        George

    2. Tyro

      George,

      Unlike Byron, I think the Minimus is perfect for ultras but I guess it's all up to the individual and what style of running you're used to.

      Jason R put up some tips on why blisters arise and some ideas for how to adjust for them: http://barefootrunninguniversity.com/injuries.htm

      It's targeted at barefoot running but I find that running with these minimalist-style shoes shares a lot more in common with the barefoot bunch than with the heavily cushioned runners. His tips have helped me deal with minor irritations that I found when doing longer runs in the Minimus and other low-support shoes so I think it was more my running technique that was to blame, not the shoes.

      1. George O

        Tyro, I took a look at Jason's site and read his advice on blisters. I am getting three blisters on my left foot.

        1: on the bottom of my toe next the the small toe

        2: at the ball of my foot behind my big toe

        3: on the top left side of my foot.

        Up until recently I only ran in sandal and NEVER had any injuries! No blisters, no rolled ankles, etc…. the reason I went shod was my need to increase my pace on the muddy, wet NW trails. With sandals I would have to come to a complete walk on any really steep downhills as traction was just not sufficient. With my MT101's I can gun down the hills with plenty of control.The pay off is a much faster times at the cost of feet injuries.

        Perhaps my temptation to be competative will be a short lived phase and I will return to my much loved sandals.

        Thanks for your advice!

        George

      2. Bryon Powell

        Tyro, your last paragraph is why I don't think many folks will be running ultras in the Minimus. I just don't see barefoot ultrarunning becoming the norm. That said, the shoes are AWESOME… and if you're deep into the barefoot/minimalist thing, then these would be great for ultras.

        For my own use, I can't see a single reason (3 grams is not a reason) for me to race a 50k in the Minimus Trail rather than the MT101. I can't imagine ever wearing either for a race longer than 50k.

        1. Tyro

          Byron,

          No, I don't think barefoot will become the norm either but I do think that the minimal/forefoot strike style will become increasingly popular and it's already probably used by a majority (or very large minority) of ultra runners. By that criteria, which shoe will work best?

          I haven't used the MT101s but I have used the La Sportiva Crosslites which have the same 11mm heel drop and it was this which convinced me to move to the Minimus. The more I've worked on getting a good forefoot strike, the more uncomfortable the raised heel has become. I've done ultras with them before and there's a lot to love but now that the Minimus is out, I find it is far more comfortable to wear at all distances I've tried so far.

          The longest I've ran in them so far was 40km but I have a 50km race in a couple weeks and a 50mile in a couple months and my plan is to use the Minimus for both but to be safe, I'm leaving the Crosslites in a drop bag :)

          I don't want to say that I'm right and you're wrong, maybe just there are some runners who would look at the Minimus and think that it's the superior shoe for distance running. Others would not which is also cool, just got to find what works for you. Personally, I think that NB has been scrambling to distance themselves (pardon the expression) from positioning these as serious shoes because the Minimus is new and novel and therefore scary and risky, not because there's anything inherent in the shoe making it unsuitable for distance running.

          Just my 0.02 and after I try those races, maybe I change my mind :)

  29. George O

    LOL! I could not agree with you more Eric but………….. In today's lawsuit happy world companies need to be proactive instead of reactive and put warning labels on just about everything that is sold. I can definitely see someone suing NB for "making their feet hurt" or even worse paralysing them for days after running way too many miles in the minimus.

    George

  30. George O

    Ben, I agree with Bryon, Great comment. I went on a 2 mile down hill run with the minimus and found that I was not gunning it down hill as fast (some of the pointy rocks hurt! ) and that my quads got a much harder workout than usual VS my Mt101's.

  31. Joel

    What did you think of these shoe's performance on downhills? They look like a good shoe and thats really the only part that concerns me.

  32. George O

    Joel, The minimus had really good grip on the downhills but again, due to lack of rock plate, you will find yourself being allot more cautious about gunning the downhills. A few times I found myself speeding up on the downhills only to be reminded by a sharp rock under my foot to slow down and pay more attentions to where I place my foot. I never felt lack of traction from the minimus but I also came to a complete walk on a few areas where with my MT101's I would be running. Again, this is not due to lack of traction but the fact that the MT101's have rock shield to protect you from pointy rocks and roots. The only thing I see being an issue here is distance. As for me, I can do about 8 miles with the minimus and that is about it. As Bryon stated before, the minimus (for allot of us) is not an ultra running shoe but a training shoe. Everyone will have different results. As for me, I see myself using them for speed work and slow 4-6 mile recovery runs and even as a daily purpose shoe.

    Good luck and enjoy them!

    Run free

    George O

    1. Joel

      Thanks George. I'm just trying to decide on a new trail shoe that isn't so big and clunky. But the thing is, The trails that I run and race on tend to have lots of very pointy rocks, sticks, and roots which can be a real issue when trying to gun it on downhills in a race. Now I'm kind of leaning towards the MT101 or something of the sort because my understanding it that the 101 is still quite lightweight while offering more protection than the Minimus.

      Thanks again,

      Joel

      1. George O

        Joel,

        In my opinion, the MT101 would be a better shoe for you it sounds like. Especially on more technical trails. Not to say that the minimus would not be able to handle the trail but… If you are looking at speed, then the MT101 will provide you with added protection against the trail debris while pushing the speed. For me, the minimus will be a staple part of my strength training but the MT101 will be my trail shoe of choice for ultras on any type of trails. Try to find a shoe store that has a return policy if you are not happy with the shoes. It really is trial and error whe trying to find the right shoe for YOU.

        Best of luck!

        Run free

        George O

  33. Johannes Gruber

    Hey there,

    If the new minimus should be sold in the UK wil it also be sold on mainland europe?

    I have emaild and ask New Balance Europe but never got an answer back…

    If not I would just order them from the US…

  34. Anthony Forsyth

    I tried on a pair of Minimus Roads and was immediately aware of instability. The shoe is higher off the ground than the trail (more cushioning for road?) and the difference was obvious. In contrast, the minimus trail was perfect – felt like a glove – low and stable too. I am a 95%+ road runner and I bought 2 pairs of trails (instead of one road adn one trail as planned). Definitely the right move. More than good enough for the road and much better shoes. Managed 18 miles on my first run in them with no probelms – the shoes are near perfect.

  35. Ron

    Well, somehow I didn't see this 'educational warning' or ignored it because the shoes felt so good and I wanted to get running in them, and so I ran 20 miles of hills with them, out of the box. I have been running in minimal shoes for some time, but not this low in the heel. It beat the crap out of my wonky foot and Achilles tendon, which three weeks later I'm still recovering from. So, perhaps the 'warning' is a good thing. The shoes feel really good and it is tempting just to keep going in them. But the shoes don't even have the support of the cushioning of the 101s. (I know, my own fault, etc., but just writing that there may be something to this 'warning' for many runners.)

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