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Young Money: Effects of the New Big Money Ultras

August 15, 2012 by Geoff Roes · 27 Comments 

Despite the title, this column is going to have very little to do with the runner formerly known as “Young Money,” although he will make an appearance later on. (For what it’s worth, “The Kid” and/or “Baby Jones” have begun the long overdue process of replacing one of the worst nicknames in trail running. Of course, this is an easy distinction being that it’s one of the only known nicknames in trail running, unless of course you are friends with Joe Grant who seems to have a nickname for everyone.) I actually could write a very amusing piece about The Kid. The piece would be titled, “Ways in which Baby Jones’ Life Has Changed Since Winning Transvulcania.” It was written a couple days after his Transvulcania win this past spring, as a collaboration of 3 or 4 runners whose names I won’t mention (but, certainly, I wasn’t involved). Besides being outdated and obscure, it’s also far enough over the top with sarcasm and vulgarity that most readers would be outraged and/or offended. Perhaps I’ll publish it on my personal blog sometime when I’m in the mood to offend.

Anyway, back on topic here. If you continue to read on this piece will eventually make some kind of sense. I promise.

2012 has been an amazingly noteworthy trail ultrarunning season thus far. There have been more epic showdowns and impressive performances than any year since I’ve been involved in the sport. Western States has, without question been at the top of this list, but so many other races have had amazing stories unfold as well. There have been too many exciting races to name them all, but certainly Lake Sonoma, Transvulcania, Hardrock, White River, and Speedgoat all stand out as races that have been unusually exciting from top to bottom. In many years, I think any of these events would go down collectively as “the race of the year.” This said though, it’s worth remembering that 2012 is far from over. Leadville 100 and Pikes Peak are both coming up this weekend, and both look to be more exciting than ever. It’s not likely that Matt Carpenter’s record will fall in either race, but each one has at least one runner who could make this happen if everything came together just right on race day.

Looking beyond this weekend though, one could argue that we are just now moving toward what might prove to be every bit as exciting as anything that’s happened yet in 2012: The trifecta of “young money” races. Run Rabbit Run 100, UROC 100k, and The North Face 50 are all quite young races, but due to the large prize purse they each put up, they feel much older and more established than they actually are.

One can argue for or against big prize money in ultrarunning for hours, but one thing that is undeniable is that prize money brings runners out to events. And not just top runners who are actually running for the money. Not only are each of these races going to be hyper competitive at the front of the field, but they are all going to have unprecedented field sizes for the age of their races.

In just over 5 years, the North Face Endurance Challenge Championship race has cemented itself as the most competitive 50 miler year in and year out. It has also become one of the largest 50 milers in the country, and if you include the runners competing in all the different distances that weekend it might be the largest trail running event in North America. (This is not something I’m likely to spend any time researching further, so please someone correct me if I’m wrong.)

The UROC 100k, in just its second year, will be unquestionably the most competitive 100k in North America this year. Even more noteworthy though is that the overall field will almost certainly top 200 runners. Something that has possibly never happened so soon in an event in the history of trail ultrarunning in North America. (Again, someone correct me here if I’m wrong.)

Run Rabbit Run 100 is happening for the first time next month. Currently, the race for the largest cash purse in the sport looks to be one of the most competitive hundred milers of the year, and the current field size of nearly 150 runners is unprecedented for a first year 100 mile race.

Say what you will about these types of races, but one thing that seems quite certain is that large cash purses bring a level of attention and excitement to an event that is hard to ignore. Personally, I think this is all a good thing, and it’s important to remember that it’s not the money that is new, but rather the distribution of the money. Most mainstream ultras have been generating a lot of revenue for quite some time now. In some cases, this has meant that huge amounts of money have been spent to put on races, and in many cases these events struggle to break even, but in many other cases there is a healthy profit that has typically gone either to race organizers or to charities. The North Face, UROC, and Run Rabbit Run aren’t losing money, because they’re giving so much of it out to the racers, they’re just not putting as much in their own pockets as they might otherwise. Then again, in the long run, the increased demand in the race (due to the large prize purse) is likely putting more money in everyone’s pockets. Kind of a win-win situation for everyone involved.

Okay, back on track here. The “politics” of prize money was not where I was planning to go with this. What I want to focus on more is the excitement of the races themselves. In previous years, the high focus races were pretty much gone with the end of summer. Now though, these three races will keep the excitement rolling right on through the end of the year. A lot of really exciting racing has happened this year, and, now, we get the chance to see it all unfold a few more times. There will be countless storylines, and epic showdowns still to come. I’m excited about each of these races for several different reasons.

Run Rabbit Run will be the first ever 100 mile race with a cash prize purse more than a few thousand dollars. (Again, this is based on my limited knowledge. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.) It’ll be fun to see what happens when so many top runners race the 100-mile distance with this kind of money on the line. Certainly, large prize money has influenced the way 50 milers are run, and I would imagine it’ll have even more of an effect at the 100-mile distance.  Run Rabbit Run is also the most mountainous of any ultra that has ever had a serious cash prize. UROC and TNF EC both have nice courses, but with RRR we’re talking about much more legitimate mountainous terrain. It’ll be fun to see what effect this might have on the race. Of these three races, Run Rabbit Run is the most likely to be won by proven mountain ultra men and women (as opposed to speedsters whose strengths lie in other disciplines of running).

UROC on the other hand goes in the opposite direction, but with no less appeal. UROC is a very challenging and rugged course, but there are also some very fast road stretches mixed in. For this reason it has drawn, and will continue to draw more shorter distance road speedsters than your typical 100k trail race. If there’s ever been a course that doesn’t really favor one type of runner, this is it. This makes for a wide-open race where runners with very different strengths and weakness might be battling it out to the very end. In that case, you better hope you can go uphill pretty well, because unlike most ultras that seem to end with a big downhill, UROC ends with one last tough climb up to the finish.

The North Face Endurance Challenge, despite being a quite young race still, has been so closely and hotly contested the past few years that it’s certainly a lot more predictable than RRR or UROC. This certainly doesn’t make it any less exciting, though. In this one, it ends up being the subtle little things that make the difference. The field of runners tends to be so deep and so capable that no one is going to run away from the field and cruise to victory. This hasn’t kept a few folks from trying (most notoriously, Greg Vollet), but in each of the past four years there has been a large pack of runners pushing a pace that is only sustainable for a few of them. Slowly various runners drop off the pace (I’ve been on both sides of this), and then you end up with an epic battle of the last two standing: Uli Steidl vs. Matt Carpenter; Uli Steidl vs. myself; Miguel Heras vs. myself; and Baby Jones vs. Mike Wolfe. It’s hard to ignore how similar these 4 races have played out to each other. It’s going to be exciting this year to see who the last two (and ultimately the last one) standing are this coming December.

So just in case you were feeling like the racing season is winding down as summer draws closer to an end, be sure not to tune out now. As epic as 2012 has been in the world of trail ultrarunning, it’s likely to get even better in the next few months, beginning with Leadville and Pikes Peak this weekend.

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Filed under Discussion, Geoff Roes' Column, Races · Tagged with Dakota Jones, Greg Vollet, Matt Carpenter, Run Rabbit Run 100, The North Face Endurance Challenge, Uli Steidl, UROC 100k

Geoff Roes has set numerous ultramarathon course records including the Western States and Wasatch 100 milers. Montrail, Clif, Drymax, Udo's Oil, Ryders Eyewear, Atlas Snowshoes, and Petzl all support Geoff's running. You can read more about his running on his blog Fumbling Towards Endurance and join him at his Alaska Mountain Ultrarunning Camps
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27 Responses to “Young Money: Effects of the New Big Money Ultras”
  1. Phil Jeremy says:
    August 15, 2012 at 5:08 am

    Goeff I know the field isn’t as stacked as in previous years but before the ‘season’ ends, and lest we forget, isn’t there a little jog around some place with ‘Blanc’ in the title taking place at the end of this month ?

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    • Speedgoatkarl says:
      August 15, 2012 at 7:25 am

      Mt. Blanc has no money involved, it’s a race where profit for the race takes over

      Reply
      • Phil Jeremy says:
        August 15, 2012 at 8:10 am

        Je le sais Karl……..it just seemed that Geoff’s piece was unintentionally a bit US centric.

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        • Speedgoatkarl says:
          August 15, 2012 at 12:29 pm

          Mt. Blanc is definately a big race, and the course is amazing, but isn’t it interesting how us Americans, once we’ve done it once or twice, it’s not as appealing? I don’t even really care if I go back because it’s so expensive. The US is starting to have some bigger money races, UTMB, and others in Europe should follow suit, then it would be worth a trip from a few fast americans to race in Europe. It’s just not worth all the travel expenses and time spent when we have races here in the US that offer some cash incentives.

          Reply
  2. Callum Elder says:
    August 15, 2012 at 5:40 am

    The description of Geoff Roes could do with an update after Western States this year.

    Reply
    • Jeremy says:
      August 16, 2012 at 1:48 pm

      Geoff did set the record at WS. It doesn’t say he holds the CR.

      Reply
      • Bryon Powell says:
        August 16, 2012 at 2:02 pm

        Jeremy, it did say it the other way until late last night. I don’t regularly review our author bios. I generally change them when a reader or the author points out the need for an update.

        Reply
  3. Visca Catalunya says:
    August 15, 2012 at 5:57 am

    Interesting and slightly confusing article. Can’t wait to see Geoff back on the scene.

    Reply
    • Fernando Fernandez says:
      August 15, 2012 at 9:56 am

      Titling yourself like that you proly are confused about most things anyways :)

      Reply
  4. Thomas says:
    August 15, 2012 at 6:15 am

    me too, hope to see geoff show the young runners whats going on in the uroc and run rabbit 100

    thomas

    Reply
  5. Pete says:
    August 15, 2012 at 7:40 am

    I just want the story on baby jones. I have a hunch it is very entertaining

    Reply
    • Tony Mollica says:
      August 15, 2012 at 9:04 pm

      +1

      Reply
  6. Nathan K says:
    August 15, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Geoff: will you be defending your UROC title this year?

    Reply
  7. CJ says:
    August 15, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    “It’s not likely that Matt Carpenter’s record will fall in either race, but each one has at least one runner who could make this happen if everything came together just right on race day.”

    The only likelihood of Carpenter’s record going down in either race would be someone else with a 90.2 VO2 max, weighs about 120lbs and trains constantly at higher altitudes and on the very course itself. Though this year’s races are stacked, I still don’t find anyone fitting that mold. These records are some of the most impressive regardless of sport

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    • Nick A says:
      August 16, 2012 at 1:28 am

      I’ve read in a few places Killian’s VO2 max is 92, weights 52kg’s/ 114 pounds and lives and trains in the Alps. Probably fits the mould, but don’t think he’ll beat that record first time out.

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      • Speedgoatkarl says:
        August 16, 2012 at 6:40 am

        Killian is the person to do it. I”m sure he’s run up Pikes a number of times now, probably in the 2:10 range…..on a training day. Killian also descends like Carpenter and the trail is super wide as far as singletrack is concerned. Killian has a chance for sure.

        Leadville….the record will remain in my opinion. The talent is there with TK, but Matt was super methodical on the day he ran that 15:47. Not sure if TK can stay that structured to really nail it. I’d love to see it.

        Killian also just broke a 30 year old record up the Grand Teton, no, not the same, but he saw it once…..

        Records are meant to be broken, and Matt’s won’t stand forever, we’ll see.

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        • CJ says:
          August 16, 2012 at 8:43 am

          I agree Killian would have the best chance. He’s a phenomenal downhill runner and I think he could duplicate the 1:15 and change Matt did on the descent when he set the Marathon record. I just don’t think he can duplicate the 2:01 ascent. I should have a nice spot to take it all in as a course marshall the day after I grunt my way through the ascent :-)

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        • Bryon Powell says:
          August 16, 2012 at 9:07 am

          Kilian ran up and down Pikes yesterday (from the parking lots ~1 mile into the course). Any “easy” ascent of the “flat” course in 2:20. If there’s one thing holding him back from making an assault on the course record (aside from not having Matt Carpenter’s course knowledge…. or focus), it’s that the descent is so runnable.

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          • CJ says:
            August 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm

            Yeah, I’ve heard the Euros look at the Barr Trail as pretty tame in terms of the technical part of it. It’s the altitude that humbles all of us, elite or back of the pack. I saw Killian & Greg Vollet near the top this morning. They looked pretty smooth, not pushing too hard

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  8. joe says:
    August 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    Welcome to the age of Monday Night Ultrarunning. You can have it. When the last of my small time local races is picked up by Saloman and fills up in 3.4 seconds then I’m outta here. Whether or not the “legitimates” show up should really make no difference to the average runner. Unfortunately inflatable starting lines with corporate logos and rubbing elbows with ultra celebrities seems to be what so many want these days. Sorry about the bad attitude.

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    • Anonymous says:
      August 15, 2012 at 7:43 pm

      damn a

      +1

      Reply
    • Speedgoatkarl says:
      August 16, 2012 at 6:43 am

      plenty of races without blowup start lines Joe. I doubt in our lifetime, you’ll see us elbowing for position at the front of a 100 mile race. Even at UTMB where 2400 runners sit and wait 2 hours under the banners to start, do they elbow each other.

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      • Matt P says:
        August 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm

        Go hang out at a Rock N Roll marathon/half marathon event and you’ll realize how small the world of ultra running is. Scott Jurek was at Seattle’s Rock N Roll Expo the day before this year’s race. No hordes of people around Scott. I bet 1 out of 100 people knew who he was.

        More prize money presumably means more money for all the other areas that require financial resources to pull off a successful event. More money in general = more races to help meet surging demand. The last week of July used to belong to White River 50. Now with Speedgoat 50K there are two big time events that weekend. I bet if there wasn’t a Speedgoat then WR would’ve filled and people who ran WR wouldn’t have been left out.

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        • Mike says:
          August 16, 2012 at 4:05 pm

          I agree with joe. I got into ultrarunning for the running and came to love the eclectic, low budget scene. Now races are either Nashville country or local bluegrass–I’ll take the latter every time.

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    • Alex from New Haven says:
      August 16, 2012 at 8:43 pm

      Why does it have to be one or the other? Big races and small races, popular and obscure, 50k trail and 24h track.

      I’m an average runner and I see fast guys for as long as we’re standing at the start line… but I like following the action for the same reason I like watching the Olympics, because it’s AMAZING!

      And why are you reading iRunFar if you don’t care… :)

      Reply
  9. Tony Mollica says:
    August 15, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I just want to see some competitive fast ultra men and women going head to head on courses they enjoy racing on. It doesn’t matter to me how they get the runners there.

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  10. Martin says:
    August 16, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    It’s sounding like Geoff, Tony and other Ultra-elites keeps throwing jinxes at each other before races via blogs and articles:
    -Geoff dnf ‘ing after Tony wiching him well into 2011 WS
    -Dakota placing 3rd in HR after being top pick by Speedgoat
    -and this article with Tony and Kilian running Leadville and Pike peak respectively

    Reply

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